Embers Of Enlightenment: Nurturing Faith Through Mindfulness And Humility With Coach Ron Kardashian

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Our next guest on the mind for your podcast. He

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calls himself a coach. I met coach Ron few months back at a

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staples store out in the Silicon Valley. And he was helping me

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understand the computer in order to get it to create a label. And

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as we, as we chatted, all of a sudden there is a realization

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that I'm chatting to someone who is definitely walking on the

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mindfulness path. And not only is Ron walking on the

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mindfulness path, not only is Ron talking on the mindfulness

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path, Ron also is a teacher is a coach who has coaching other

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people to walk on that mindfulness path. And one of the

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gifts that Ron, that Ron has, is that he has been blessed with an

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with a realization, not just reading about mindfulness and

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meditation and spirituality, but an experience of mindfulness

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being touched by divine by divine energy. And then to be

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able to take that experience, that abstract metaphysical

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experience, and then be able to articulate it in a way that

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other people can understand and have greater clarity on how they

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too, can walk the mindfulness path. So is with joy in my

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heart. That I welcome coach Ron, to the mindful you, podcast.

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Coach, Ron, welcome to the mindful you podcast. It's

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guiding you on the podcast. And when I met you in Los Gatos,

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several months ago, there was a spark there was a spark between

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what you said and what I said. And what I want to be able to do

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was add more kindling to the spark to create a flame sir

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flame of light a flame of light only permeates the the

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individual experience of a person but also permeates the

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organizational structures that we have as humans, for example,

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the corporations and you had mentioned a little bit about the

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the spirituality in the corporate world, our the need

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for more of that spirituality in the corporate world. And I call

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that mindfulness spirituality. And before we go into the that

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particular path, I would like just to have our audience hear a

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little bit about your path about what ignited the spark in you,

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which now burns like a burning bush. A bright light, sir

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universe.

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Well, thank you again for having me.

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I'm honored to be here. The my history dates back all the way

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till I was 22 years old Alan, where I was heavy into the party

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scene, drug use, did jail time, I mean, anything. A young boy

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who has no real strong governances on his life could go

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I went, which I'm a big advocate of boundaries now in principles

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that that I didn't even know existed. I mean, we were just

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living life vicariously so much. So it costs me not one but three

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near death experiences. And remember, one evening, I had

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come down with the chicken pox in the third grade, and my fever

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at hit scarlet fever level, which for our listeners, that's

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that's 103 104. They say 104 You begin to fry up 105 And my

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mother at the time who was not an overly spiritual person, but

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was a devout Catholic. You know, I say that I'm a Catholic and

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recovery, you know, because religion never bode well for me

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at all. But that night, that night, she brought in the nuns,

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that's all she knew how to do because her little boy in the

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third grade, which was the love of her life was dying. Hang, and

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they didn't know how to stop it. I mean, at one point, Alan, my

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father could not lift me up under my arms because the

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chicken pox was so bad that it would skull me scalding burning

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my flesh if he tried to touch me. So they had to use a cold,

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crisp cotton sheet to help lift me up to get me into the baths.

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Where I would soak. I mean, at one point, she said, we had

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thought that maybe you had a form of leprosy. And I don't

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remember all the details of that. But I do remember just

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asking God to take my life. You bet. It was at that moment that

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the transition began. And you fast forward now, you know, till

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I'm 22, having gone up and down and being confused, no

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direction, but all but having this near death experience led

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to my second one, which was a fatal car accident, where I

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crossed over. And you know, how people say that they've seen the

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light, you know, I didn't just see the light I saw Jesus face

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to face. I mean, when people asked me to articulate what it

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was to look into the face of Jesus, and we have all these

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religions that have soured that name, I mean, in the Western

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culture, Jesus Christ is a cuss word. None of my Buddhist

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friends have Buddha as a cuss word, you know, just Jesus. And

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I thought, Man, the guy has been really given a bad rap. And

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actually, he just was the most warming loving entity of light

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that all of us are crying out for. And I saw him, and I've

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seen him twice since then. And so much so that it impacted me,

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right, I thought I should become a Catholic priest. Uh huh. And

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so, funny story was, I enroll in the priesthood. And two boys

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show up at this massive retreat. Long story short, the priest

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tells me all his problems out on one walk one morning, and

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actually deters me from becoming a priest. But you know, when you

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have encounters like this, and they're happening more and more

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often, the the spiritual realm is so powerful. And then fast

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forward into coaching companies, you know, you're you're talking

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to high level individuals who are actually having the same

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encounters, but they don't know how to articulate them. They're

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too afraid or embarrassed or pride or people are gonna think

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you're crazy. Or, you know, and not just the light, the demonic

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side, too. I mean, I hear people talking about, they saw black

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hatted figures standing in the hallway, repetitively over and

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over again. So this, this began to fascinate me. And I began a

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deep exhaustive study over the last 25 years, into the Word of

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God into the Holy Bible. And also, Hey, I gotta admit, I

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started at the East West bookstores, had some psychic

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readings in the beginning. I mean, when you're touched like

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that, you don't just say everything else is obsolete,

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your mind opens up to a whole plethora of knowledge seeking

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where you need to grab a hold of what happened. Because if you

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don't, then you really have no portal of destiny, which I call.

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In other words, you know, the trajectory now you should be on.

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And I encourage people always to seek but at the end of the day,

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Jesus is Lord in my heart, Allen lock, stock and barrel.

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Everything that I teach, and everything that I do comes from

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a spirit of love, which was the main difference. I was noticing

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amongst a lot of different ecumenical circles, if you will,

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that that behavioral trait of like how we met, you know, in

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fact, I think you need a little help with something that you

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were doing and right, what started the conversation? That's

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right. I said, Well, let me let me offer some, some kindness,

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which is something I think the world needs a lot of, and by the

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way, I'm still a work in progress. But that that began

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the journey right of, of deep diving. Now, I pivoted early on

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early on in my career, because I always had a call to be in

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health and fitness. So, you know, right around 22, after I

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got touched, I had the Bible in one hand, and then I had the

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strength and conditioning journals in the other hand, so I

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was completely perplexed on which direction of which path I

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should take. Power of mentorship, the power of coaches

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like you, Alan, I meet a woman who tells me, why can't you do

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both? And that began my spiritual journey of not

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becoming a priest, because God knows I wanted to be married.

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It's better to marry than to burn, and this boy was burning.

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And I said, you know, I think I can do both. And I did. My

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career started me off all the way went up to the NFL, or I

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started to coach and pro athletes got my license and

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strength and conditioning. And then what One of the, one of the

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NFL athletes asked me to help him with his money. And I didn't

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have any money. I mean, I had done well, but not not millions

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well, and it was just a very precious relationship. He was

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also a Christian brother. So we had this commonality, of course,

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pro sports are filled with a bunch of spiritual guys who have

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very little direction. And that's what started the business

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career. So I have a little little saying is I went all the

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way from the weight room to the boardroom, you know, because I

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found a niche, and that niche was Executive Council. Lee

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confidant is the name of my company, I became a confidant, a

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private confidant to some of the most powerful people in the

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world. And now here I am, 25 years later, living my dream,

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running my own companies speaking all over the world,

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authoring books, and the light is still with me. So I prayed

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never leaves.

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That's a wonderful, wonderful story.

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coach Ron, that's very, very illuminating is a word to

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describe it. It's like being touched by the light and allow

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the light to transmit through you. And in the Course of

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Miracles, which I think that you're familiar with, we might

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have mentioned, on in Los Gatos talk talks about the

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Marianne Williamson fact, we just met at a party and

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she asked me to endorse her for the presidency. I, I didn't know

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what to say, Alan, I was so honored. But yes, I in fact, I

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brought up her book, and she looked at me like, it's been 30

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years since right 20 a while since I've been a while

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I'm 70 was the 70s. I think it first first came

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out, sir, almost 50 years. And one of the things is that you

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remind me of is God cannot do for you what God cannot do

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through you. And to allow yourself to have the audacity to

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claim to be a spokesperson for the Lord, a spokesperson for my

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office, a spokesperson for the Holy Spirit. And to be able to

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have that, that that clear. It's not it's not Yes. It's not

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faking it. It's clear experiential in my body kind of

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in this moment, and to be able to illuminate the dark, sir. And

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we talked about corporations and corporate folks have a

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tremendous opportunity to be able to use the organization's

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to disseminate. I'll call it the light, why they why they're

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doing the business. And I'm wondering, yes, what you do to

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uncork that bottle of spirituality into the corporate

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boardrooms?

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Well, it's a very powerful question. I think deep

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within that we have to remember these are natural people living

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supernatural lives. I always tell people that I said, you

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know, you live a very supernatural life, you just

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don't realize it yet. I said, the mere fact that you exist out

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of all the sperm that went into that egg, the millions that had

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the opportunity to penetrate here you are with a template and

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that template starts with a DNA strand. I said Make no mistake

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about it. There's no mistaking you even to the aborted to the

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child who was almost aborted, you know, there's no mistake

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because you you feel like you were born out of wedlock.

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There's no mistake. And I've learned this through the path of

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gods and unconditional love Alan, which is a vital force

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that mankind is looking for. Yet, here's the beautiful part

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about it. We don't need to have that mastered in order to give

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it we do have traces of it. We we give traces of it. We give

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traces of this unconditional love, which is Love is patient

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love is kind it's not jealous, angry, boastful, proud or rude.

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I mean, look, the template is set. You just got to read the

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manuscript. You know, First Corinthians 13 is very clear, on

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really what love is. And I had a major wake up call behaviorally

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around the spirit of arrogance, conceit, pride, which are all

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spiritual matters. These are behavioral traits, but man,

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they're wit down into the gut or the soul of man, which the soul

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as you know, Alan is mind will and emotions, mind will and

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emotions is so a lot of spiritual people get this

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confused. Then again, my manuscript is you know, we swear

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to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, lock,

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stock and barrel, that Bible and it's very clear about it the

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soul is different than the spirit and the spirit is

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different than the body. We I like to say we are spiritual

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people having an earthly experience not earthly people

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having spiritual experiences.

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Yes, sir, let that sink

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in for a second. You know, I'm a spiritual being on

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the earth having an earthly experience, how do I facilitate

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that? And the business side is very, very important because the

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higher of a spiritual person you are, the more of a mandate, you

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have to bring resources into the earth. I believe that I'm

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convinced of it. I think wealth has been misappropriated in the

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hands of corrupt people. And here are the sweet, gentle

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people like yourself, who are doing well for yourself. But we

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have the ability to do even better, Alan, we have the

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ability to reach new economical spheres that we never dreamed

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up. And it's important that we remind ourselves of these. When

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I begin to talk like this, I attract the business sector

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because their language is all about renumeration. That how can

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we be compensated? How can we get an ROI? And when they pull

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me in to do that? I recenter them and realign them to say,

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talk to me about what the real power is behind what you're

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trying to do. And when you peel back those layers, you see more

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good than bad. At least I do. I don't see I don't see I don't

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see the darkness too much anymore. And that's because

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light, light does attract light, light does attract darkness as

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well. But when you're really an advocate of championing light,

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you will reciprocate, we call it the law of reciprocity, right?

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The the law of sowing and reaping. We you know, we see

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this through the whole movement of the secret, they actually

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took Galatians four, and they opened it up to a level I tell

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the church world don't Don't Don't Don't get upset at these

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people don't don't they took what God created and actually

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did something with it. And this is where my boost comes in to

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say get off your spiritual high horse. And let's get to work.

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Let's put the spiritual power to use. And that's what I'm doing

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day to day.

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As you go on,

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if that makes sense. Yeah,

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yes. But as you were, as you were talking, I

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think of a word called the Holy Spirit. Answer I think of the

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Apostles Creed. I think the I believe in the Holy Spirit. I

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believe in the goodness of sin. I find that beautiful. When you

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start talking about I believe in the Holy Spirit, you're saying

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there's something beyond the physical. And when you say I

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believe in the forgiveness of sin, to me, that's a pathway to

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the Holy Spirit. And the pathway. Spirit is the doorway

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to salvation. And yes, sir, my question that I'm formulating

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is, my background is transpersonal psychology. And

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psychology focuses on the egoic being the egoic identity, which

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is, I would say source of suffering, and transform that

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into the being identity, which would be no resistance to what

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is. And when you get to no resistance to what is then then

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that's love. Love is unconditional space, there's no

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resistance to what you have to say. And if I have resistance,

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it stirs up the thoughts. And when the thoughts get stirred

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up, it parallels my identity. And so how do you sail through

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that, that Island have an egoic identity? And have people

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realize that they're not that they're much more the Holy

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Spirit, which is the mindfulness and being this, of the of the

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God God being? I'm not sure even how to say it. But how do you?

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How do you get that wrath from one place to the other?

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Very, very powerful question and beautiful of

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background with you, Alan, I didn't know that. That's those

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words you're using about identification of suffering and

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the component to parallel unconditional love is a very,

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very powerful Christian aptitude, which most people do

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not understand. And that is Christ. Yet while we were yet

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sinners, corrupt, yet died for us, and that he became the

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appropriation of sin, to appropriate justification for a

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man and woman who knew him not. Yet before we even knew him, he

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loved us and gave His life for us as a ransom. And when you hit

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then you use the word redeemed, to redeem us into redemption is

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actually a financial term, right? We it means read means

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before deemed to buy back so someone had to buy us back. This

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is what I didn't catch early on in those Press. 10 years it was

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always religion is about conformity. If you don't do this

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boy, you're going to hell. And I mean, it was horrible, horrible.

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Who would ever want to serve God with this condemnation, spirit

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binding? So in answer to your question, the bridge is

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understanding when you hear him knocking, hard, not your heart.

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And that is the pivotal moment Allen, where we either induce

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pride and say, No, it's really not him, or we humble ourselves

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to the probability of God calling. I always tell great and

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powerful leaders that are seeking the face of God. Well,

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Ron, you hear from God, it's easy for you. It's not that it's

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easy. It's developed. It's It's learning to yield to the Holy

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Spirit. It's like, what was God's voice? What was Ron's

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voice, and in that yielding is a constant state of humility,

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which is the per the correct understanding of what humility

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is, it's not genuflecting before an altar and making the sound

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beautiful that you do that, or, you know, hands together and we

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bow and martial arts are here. You know, we we use the word

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peace, peace, be you know, Namaste, Namaste. And those are

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elements of humility. But the real root of Humility is saying,

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I don't know everything. And there could be something more.

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And it's right at that moment. When you hear him knocking, you

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hear broadcasts like this, he's knocking. He's calling us back

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to say, just accept, don't resist. And Alan, I think it's

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in that moment, that the human psyche, then begins to move into

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a new space of neurological adaptation. That is a fancy way

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of saying your brain begins to fire do tu Tu, Tu, Tu, tu tu

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synaptic connections that you even, you know, we got 100

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billion of these things. I wrote it about it in my book. So where

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are they retiring and rewiring, you know, they're either

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rewiring to more labor and hustle, which by the way, I hate

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that word hustle. Or it's rewiring to more of a

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conscientiousness, higher state of consciousness to where we are

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more in a state of bliss, calm. And as the Holy Spirit would

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say, Peace, internal peace, if that makes sense. Oh, yeah,

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transition sum that up is humility. I believe. That's my

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belief. Yeah,

Alan Carroll: 00:22:41

the I find that in the in, and my knowledge of the

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Bible is this, your knowledge is like that. So but I know a

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little I know a little because it's a boy scout, you have to

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get the Purple Heart. And the Purple Heart. Christian merit is

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a Christian metal. And part of the Purple Heart was to memorize

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some of the key passages from the Bible. And you do it, you

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know, yeah. However, I went back. And I started to look at

Alan Carroll: 00:23:16

those passages. Here I am in my 70s. And beautiful, and the last

Alan Carroll: 00:23:23

night 23rd song. Yes, me, makes me to lie down in green

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pastures. leadeth me beside the still waters. And I said, Okay,

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what does that mean? I went into the method, it has to do with

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coming to rest, and allowing the Lord God to take care of you.

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And for me, that means surrender. And when you talk

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about humility, you talk about the ego, it talks about the ego.

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What the ego does not do is surrender. Yes, the ego is

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defending its point of view, not surrendering its point of view.

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And for me to surrender, my point of view would be a

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describe it as in A Course of Miracles, it talks about if I,

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why can't I surrender my point of view, and they say it entails

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an unfair sacrifice of my righteous wrath. And somehow, I

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believe, and I believe you believe it, that we have to get

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beyond the ego, which is self centered, to get to the being or

Alan Carroll: 00:24:28

the Holy Spirit or the mindfulness state of

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consciousness, which is, which is centered on the we're all

Alan Carroll: 00:24:35

together. I am. I am that love that you're talking about? Yes.

Alan Carroll: 00:24:41

Yes, very

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good point. In fact, the Bible alludes to that, that

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we're all one body. And so it's important for us to recognize

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that there's something bigger going on here. So how I like to

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have these discussions now in this postmodern world era is

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like, okay, let's just put all the swords on the table, and

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just really talk about what To the ultimate need here. I mean,

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me being a cognitive behavioral expert. You know, Mike Mike, one

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of my tech companies helps people understand cognitive,

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emotional intelligence. So we're all governed by the same 24

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behavioral traits, conscientiousness, ambition,

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endurance, self confidence, composure, etc, etc. But at the

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end of the day, we all have families, we all bleed crimson,

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we all cry, we all have emotions, we all want to be

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loved. And I find that in business, probably the number

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one request I get is, How do I stay at peace? I'm believing for

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millions of dollars on my bottom line, My guts are at a mess, My

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blood pressure's high, my cholesterol is high, the body is

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sending the signals. And so when I say put all the swords on the

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table, let's not talk dogma, as much as we talk, how do we

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handle life's vicissitudes? How do we better ourselves to help

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you be better? How can I better me so I can obviously help you.

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And it may not be through counsel or coaching or

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therapists or people like in our trade, but having a calm

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disposition, knowing that the power of God Almighty and the

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integrity of his word can support me when I have no way

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out, is unbelievably phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Alan, if and we

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do this in business, we call them covenant agreements, we

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signed contracts. Well, I always joke with my Jewish friends. I

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had a great Jewish attorney for many years. And I you know, when

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we met, you know, I told him, You believe in Jehovah, he goes,

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Oh, yeah, we've served them for years. He goes, he's a wealthy

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God. That's why every Jew that I meet as wealthy, it's

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unbelievable. Why, you know, when you really talk to them, a

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lot of them have dogma, but there's another side that they

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don't even, it's just part of their DNA. They say, Well, if

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it's in red, it's what he said, you know, they kind of they kind

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of have this little chip, like, wait a minute, what do you mean?

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Well, he said, God's god of integrity, they put it down to

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66 books, you wrote it down New Testament is the the new

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contract, and I go, wow, it's a contract. And, you know, I like

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to do my Italian voice. You know, I think God made me an

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offer, I couldn't refuse. You know, when he came to me, he

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goes, I'll put it in black and white. I'll write it down lock,

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stock and barrel. And for a guy like me, who didn't grow up with

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those, like a governor, you got to have a governor in your life,

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you've got to have a series of instruments around you. Because

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if you don't, you'll be easily persuaded, you know, move. So So

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I took the Bible as a instrument, and a contract. And

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I said, Well, if you put it in black and white, I'm looking to

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be a man of integrity. I never had that. Just still working on

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it. I want to be a man of my word. And I found that God is

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the God of the word. He is the Word made flesh, man, you cannot

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separate him. So when you start living your life from a place of

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someone's genuinely got my back, despite how I'm treated, despite

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how I treat others, just let me say this first, despite my

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behaviors or my sins, it's unconditional. It's at that

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point, you are automatically humbled. It's overwhelming. You

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literally have nothing else to say, but praise the Lord. Thank

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You, Lord. It's just an automatic. If that piece doesn't

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drop 12 inches from the head to your heart, it stays in

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information, it does not become revelation. And Revelation is

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the key Alan, to manifestation. We all know it's true. Because

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we didn't know the law of reciprocity until we had a

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revelation of it. You got to take the cash out of your

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pocket, go give it to someone else. And watch it reciprocate.

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Coming back to you. Theory only takes you so far. application.

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Application is the principle of wisdom, the application of

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knowledge. Proverbs four is wisdom at its highest level. And

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as you begin to slowly apply, just the right thinking. Ie I'm

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open to this. All right, Lord, speak to him speak to me like he

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spoke to Ron, speak to me like he spoke to Alan. It begins this

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new neurological adaptation, where he's able to speak and

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boy, he doesn't.

Alan Carroll: 00:29:51

You talked about practice, and the need to

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reinforce and what I like to do before we complete today His

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podcast is I'd like you to imagine the audience is

Alan Carroll: 00:30:03

listening. And what is a practice that they could do on a

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daily basis, let's say five minutes, because that's part of

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the problem with practices. Well, it takes you two hours,

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knowing ain't gonna happen. But for five minutes just to just to

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plant a seed, and see if they can cultivate that seed over

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time that is sustainable. But what would you suggest that they

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do in order to achieve that, that letting go state of humble

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and also faith, it's the faith that the Lord will take care of

Alan Carroll: 00:30:37

us?

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This right. That's a very, very powerful question. 30

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years in practice, out of my own personal stash, that I'm doing

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now, and I wish someone would have told me this early on. It's

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found in Joshua one nine, it's very clear, it's in black and

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whites the integrity of his word, he said, If which the word

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if is is a preposition, it means on the condition that so this is

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strictly a measure of the human will, things that we can do. If

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you meditate on my word, night and day, you will be prosperous

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in all you do. If you meditate on my word, night, and day, you

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will be prosperous and all you do. That word all really got me

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right between the eye because I said, Well, God, you said all he

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said I sure did. And Alan for the last couple of years, not

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even, not even in the last 10 Maybe in the last five. I never

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put meditation at the top of my list. But man, I'm walking my 13

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year old little boy through it now. I said, Come on, baby.

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Let's bow our head and find one scripture in the Bible. This is

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a time tested book. This is not coach Ron and we got a lot of

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books, but my books aren't nearly as good as the main book.

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Just go to the main book. And I always recommend starting

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Proverbs. Proverbs is the wisdom of dealing with business, or

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other people and then Psalms like you were reading from Psalm

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23. Allen is about dealing with ourselves, calming ourselves,

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and find one of them. For instance, my personal stash

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right now is Ephesians. One, you're gonna love this one night

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and day, my little 13 year old hasn't memorized. I says, Father

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of the Lord Jesus Christ. So it's acknowledging God, right,

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you got the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. So it's acknowledging

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God, Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, Father of glory, given

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to me the spirit of wisdom, and revelation in the knowledge of

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you very key, so that the eyes of my heart are flooded with

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light, that I would come to know the hope of your calling,

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please. And we go to sleep. We wake up in the morning, Father

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of glory, give me the spirit of wisdom and revelation and the

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knowledge of you so that the eyes of my heart are flooded

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with light helped me to be a blessing to all my clients

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today, my family, my children, give me strength where I'm weak.

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And you know, man, I'm telling you, I have had two more

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encounters with them. Two more, or I saw him face to face. And

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when I put up on YouTube, says Kardashian has encountered with

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Christ I mean, man, this is, this is, this is a love message

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where he is he, you know, Alan, all throughout history all the

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way back to the Garden of Eden. God has always taken a man or a

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woman to work his method. I don't know why he does this on

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he could he could appear to the whole world all at once. Why

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does he take frail little flawed men like us? I'll say myself,

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because I'm such a work in progress. And why does he take

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imperfect people in work is perfect plan. And for the life

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of me, I still don't know. But I'm constantly humbled, like you

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said, just take it wrong, and just just be humble about it and

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just keep going. I think that's the rub. And when we meditate,

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it keeps us in balance, keeps us in good balance.

Alan Carroll: 00:34:16

I find that the meditation is one of the sayings

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that you have to go in to get out. If you want to escape from

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that prison of sin, we'll call it sin, that prison of

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suffering. It's going inside and allowing that calmness through

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meditation to happen. So it begins it begins you begins to

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create mental stability, emotional stability. So when the

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events happen in the outer world, you don't react anymore,

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you're able to take a pause, take a breath. Can I keep myself

Alan Carroll: 00:34:51

relaxed and still operating the levers? What's going on in order

Alan Carroll: 00:34:55

to produce the result? Or am I or am I agitated and defending

Alan Carroll: 00:34:58

my point of view and use Do that. And then after that, well

Alan Carroll: 00:35:01

your skill is going to be farm sailing. So I'm, I'm excited to

Alan Carroll: 00:35:06

hear that you talk about meditation so much. So coach

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Ron, I want to, I want to just, you know, thank you and give you

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a chance to say anything else you'd like to say, especially

Alan Carroll: 00:35:16

how we can contact you, and what's the title of the book.

Alan Carroll: 00:35:19

And also, we'll all your contact information will be in the show

Alan Carroll: 00:35:24

notes. So all that information you sent me.

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Great. Well, thank you. I'd be honored to assist in any

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of your listeners, whatever you need. We have a beautiful

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practice here. And in Los in Silicon Valley, Los Gatos, we

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met but we're right here in Silicon Valley, right down the

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street from Facebook, and Twitter and Instagram and all

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the biggest companies in the world. It's such an honor to

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live here. But I just in closing notes, I want to make a comment

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about the sign that you have above your head here. My right

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probably your left, the power of the pause, which Alan I really

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commend you for saying that fact I write about it in my book, Dr.

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Daniel Amon, of course, the the famous psychologist who wrote

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Change Your Brain, Change Your body. He endorsed my book and

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did the entire forward. He said something very powerful,

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alluding to the pause. And he said, if you put into practice

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coach Ron's book to help you develop new brain pathways that

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will enhance impulse control, focus and forethought. And I was

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so honored that you had this PhD, who would actually

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authenticate my thesis in 30 seconds. And to your point,

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that's all it takes to pause to respond before you react. And I

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talk about in the book How, right here in my neighborhood, a

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gentleman decided to react to incoming traffic and not wait.

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And Alan he killed a little girl right down the street from where

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we were on impact. Because he did not hit his own internal

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pause button and her him and her daddy were crossing the street

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going to school and he killed the little girl. That man in

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1/32 decision has three, let me repeat 330 year life sentences

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that all could have been avoided if we just had the tools.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:24

Thank you, coach Ron, you're an inspiration.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:27

You're a gift to the world. And thank you for all that you do to

Alan Carroll: 00:37:30

reduce the suffering of we all feel and to bring us up and to

Alan Carroll: 00:37:34

allow us to have that experience of mindfulness and be closer to

Alan Carroll: 00:37:39

the Lord.

Unknown: 00:37:41

Thank you, sir.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:42

And you as well. Thank you. God bless you, Alan.